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	<title>Comments on: Making RSS as &#8220;pushy&#8221; as email</title>
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		<title>By: davidrothman.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting &#8216;em to use the tools</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2006/07/23/making-rss-as-pushy-as-email/comment-page-1/#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator>davidrothman.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting &#8216;em to use the tools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I hear this question (or a variation on this theme) an awful lot. This isn&#8217;t really a question about feeds or aggregators (though this post has some tips on how to make feeds more &#8220;pushy&#8221; for users)- what it is asking is for advice on how to convince the library&#8217;s patrons to USE its super-cool new tools and services. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I hear this question (or a variation on this theme) an awful lot. This isn&#8217;t really a question about feeds or aggregators (though this post has some tips on how to make feeds more &#8220;pushy&#8221; for users)- what it is asking is for advice on how to convince the library&#8217;s patrons to USE its super-cool new tools and services. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marjolein Hoekstra</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2006/07/23/making-rss-as-pushy-as-email/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjolein Hoekstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I have one or two invites left, I&#039;ll get you one of those asap.

About TagJag: yes, it would be nice if there were some kind of refined semantic clustering done in TagJag to reduce the noise. Until a major revision like that is implemented, I think we should stick to providing multiple keywords to fine-tune the search results. 

FYI: I just created RSSonate, a digest of news feeds related to RSS technology, in celebration of the fact that after so many months I finally revived my weblog CleverClogs.org (http://www.cleverclogs.org). RSSonate is hosted by FeedBurner at http://feeds.feedburner.com/rssonate. Let me know what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I have one or two invites left, I&#8217;ll get you one of those asap.</p>
<p>About TagJag: yes, it would be nice if there were some kind of refined semantic clustering done in TagJag to reduce the noise. Until a major revision like that is implemented, I think we should stick to providing multiple keywords to fine-tune the search results. </p>
<p>FYI: I just created RSSonate, a digest of news feeds related to RSS technology, in celebration of the fact that after so many months I finally revived my weblog CleverClogs.org (<a href="http://www.cleverclogs.org)" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleverclogs.org)</a>. RSSonate is hosted by FeedBurner at <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/rssonate" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.feedburner.com/rssonate</a>. Let me know what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2006/07/23/making-rss-as-pushy-as-email/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Marjolein!

I have to say that I have been disappointed with TagJag thus far.  I tried it out when it first launched as Gada.be, and started trying it out again several weeks ago.  I have to say that it has not done much for me.  Perhaps it is just the sort of stuff I want constant searches for, but it doesn&#039;t seem to find and feed me the things I set it up for.  I&#039;m absolutely open to the idea that this is due to user error, though. Your mileage may vary.  

I sure wish regular google searched provided RSS feeds.

When it comes to tools that return search results as RSS feeds, I&#039;ve used and found the following useful:

- Google News (news search) &amp; Google Blog Search (rss search)
- Feedster (rss search, www.feedster.com)
- BlogLines (rss search)
- TalkDigger (rss search, www.talkdigger.com)

I did submit my email to try out Touchstone when it comes out of Alpha.  It sounds really interesting and I&#039;d love to try it.

Best,

-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marjolein!</p>
<p>I have to say that I have been disappointed with TagJag thus far.  I tried it out when it first launched as Gada.be, and started trying it out again several weeks ago.  I have to say that it has not done much for me.  Perhaps it is just the sort of stuff I want constant searches for, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to find and feed me the things I set it up for.  I&#8217;m absolutely open to the idea that this is due to user error, though. Your mileage may vary.  </p>
<p>I sure wish regular google searched provided RSS feeds.</p>
<p>When it comes to tools that return search results as RSS feeds, I&#8217;ve used and found the following useful:</p>
<p>- Google News (news search) &#038; Google Blog Search (rss search)<br />
- Feedster (rss search, <a href="http://www.feedster.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.feedster.com</a>)<br />
- BlogLines (rss search)<br />
- TalkDigger (rss search, <a href="http://www.talkdigger.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkdigger.com</a>)</p>
<p>I did submit my email to try out Touchstone when it comes out of Alpha.  It sounds really interesting and I&#8217;d love to try it.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>-David</p>
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		<title>By: Marjolein Hoekstra</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2006/07/23/making-rss-as-pushy-as-email/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjolein Hoekstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of interesting tools have come out over the past few months that could be valuable if you work with RSS feeds professionally, either as a facilitator or as a user. I&#039;ve recently started to generate RSS feeds using http://www.tagjag.com, which allows you to specify one or more keywords, runs it against a considerable amount of search engines and then generates a list of custom RSS feeds that you can use. The result is an automatically generated, reasonably relevant digest of headlines about your topic. TagJag is a project by Chris Pirillo.

I also suggest to keep an eye on Touchstone (http://www.touchstonelive.com), a cool desktop program that monitors and analyzes your interests to determine your priorities and then delivers  bits and pieces of information to you ranked according to your profile.  The level of disruption is determined by the relevance of the information.

Let me know what you think, I&#039;l follow this conversation through coComment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of interesting tools have come out over the past few months that could be valuable if you work with RSS feeds professionally, either as a facilitator or as a user. I&#8217;ve recently started to generate RSS feeds using <a href="http://www.tagjag.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tagjag.com</a>, which allows you to specify one or more keywords, runs it against a considerable amount of search engines and then generates a list of custom RSS feeds that you can use. The result is an automatically generated, reasonably relevant digest of headlines about your topic. TagJag is a project by Chris Pirillo.</p>
<p>I also suggest to keep an eye on Touchstone (<a href="http://www.touchstonelive.com)" rel="nofollow">http://www.touchstonelive.com)</a>, a cool desktop program that monitors and analyzes your interests to determine your priorities and then delivers  bits and pieces of information to you ranked according to your profile.  The level of disruption is determined by the relevance of the information.</p>
<p>Let me know what you think, I&#8217;l follow this conversation through coComment.</p>
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		<title>By: Information Wants To Be Free &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Playing catch-up</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2006/07/23/making-rss-as-pushy-as-email/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Information Wants To Be Free &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Playing catch-up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Making RSS as &#8220;pushy&#8221; as email - In spite of what most people have written on the subject, I have always thought of RSS as more of a &#8220;push&#8221; technology. So I was happy to see that David Rothman feels the same way and has some useful tips for making RSS even more pushy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Making RSS as &#8220;pushy&#8221; as email &#8211; In spite of what most people have written on the subject, I have always thought of RSS as more of a &#8220;push&#8221; technology. So I was happy to see that David Rothman feels the same way and has some useful tips for making RSS even more pushy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2006/07/23/making-rss-as-pushy-as-email/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hope!

I need to clarify something relating to your comment.  Setting up RSS feeds is absolutely positively NOT labor-intensive, and that&#039;s one of its appeals.  What you&#039;re doing at Medgrab is to use Feedburner to create script to insert into your Wordpress account to generate email subscription forms- and, as you say, the problem is with Internet Explorer, not with RSS.  I think it is important to clarify that your difficulty is one of web development, NOT one of the technology being, in and of itself, difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hope!</p>
<p>I need to clarify something relating to your comment.  Setting up RSS feeds is absolutely positively NOT labor-intensive, and that&#8217;s one of its appeals.  What you&#8217;re doing at Medgrab is to use Feedburner to create script to insert into your Wordpress account to generate email subscription forms- and, as you say, the problem is with Internet Explorer, not with RSS.  I think it is important to clarify that your difficulty is one of web development, NOT one of the technology being, in and of itself, difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Leman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2006/07/23/making-rss-as-pushy-as-email/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Hope Leman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting discussion. I am wondering if there has been discussion of the difficulties those of us that want to set up huge numbers of RSS feeds for library patrons to harness are having trying to get Internet Explorer 6 to work with FeedBurner and WordPress. There don&#039;t seem to be the same problems with Firefox. 

RSS is a great techology, but setting up RSS feeds for others to use is incredibly labor intensive and huge amounts of time have to be devoted to quality control to make sure all has been set up properly and that link rot isn&#039;t creeping in--and all this precedes the education efforts entailed in informing patrons of what RSS feeds are and how to use them and then how to obtain articles from the library that has set up the RSS feeds of tables of contents for them. &quot;Try it, you&#039;ll like it!&quot; Librarians should buy the rights to that slogan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting discussion. I am wondering if there has been discussion of the difficulties those of us that want to set up huge numbers of RSS feeds for library patrons to harness are having trying to get Internet Explorer 6 to work with FeedBurner and WordPress. There don&#8217;t seem to be the same problems with Firefox. </p>
<p>RSS is a great techology, but setting up RSS feeds for others to use is incredibly labor intensive and huge amounts of time have to be devoted to quality control to make sure all has been set up properly and that link rot isn&#8217;t creeping in&#8211;and all this precedes the education efforts entailed in informing patrons of what RSS feeds are and how to use them and then how to obtain articles from the library that has set up the RSS feeds of tables of contents for them. &#8220;Try it, you&#8217;ll like it!&#8221; Librarians should buy the rights to that slogan.</p>
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