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	<title>Comments on: Gormangate II and disagreeing with T. Scott Again</title>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been following this particular Gorman incident closely, and just read his Brittanica posts yesterday. I did note that he&#039;s to be sticking up for Brittanica and similar text-based or authority-based products *on a blog hosted by Brittanica,* but doesn&#039;t seem to address that conflict of interest to my satisfaction. But that&#039;s just me. 

One thing I&#039;m wary of is that whenever Gorman goes off about the perils of the tubes, it gets picked up much more widely so as to go mostly outside the librarian audience. When techies and other folks respond to it, they typically say, &quot;former ALA head Gorman...&quot; This disturbs me because I don&#039;t think your average reader on a non-library blog is necessarily going to know or take time to find out that Gorman doesn&#039;t represent all librarians, and this is not how all librarians think. It&#039;s an image issue. Gorman can say whatever he wants, but it falls to the rest of us to work extra hard to make sure people know we are up on technology and are moving forward with them, not against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been following this particular Gorman incident closely, and just read his Brittanica posts yesterday. I did note that he&#8217;s to be sticking up for Brittanica and similar text-based or authority-based products *on a blog hosted by Brittanica,* but doesn&#8217;t seem to address that conflict of interest to my satisfaction. But that&#8217;s just me. </p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m wary of is that whenever Gorman goes off about the perils of the tubes, it gets picked up much more widely so as to go mostly outside the librarian audience. When techies and other folks respond to it, they typically say, &#8220;former ALA head Gorman&#8230;&#8221; This disturbs me because I don&#8217;t think your average reader on a non-library blog is necessarily going to know or take time to find out that Gorman doesn&#8217;t represent all librarians, and this is not how all librarians think. It&#8217;s an image issue. Gorman can say whatever he wants, but it falls to the rest of us to work extra hard to make sure people know we are up on technology and are moving forward with them, not against them.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott.

On the second point, thanks for clarifying.  I&#039;ve added an edit to the post noting this clarification.

On the first, I maintain that you&#039;re applying a double standard by your selection of recipients for your critique.  You criticize others for being rude in response to Gorman, leaving out entirely that Gorman himself is exceptionally rude.  You suggest in your comment above that you find Gorman&#039;s tone offensive and unacceptable but &lt;em&gt;you don&#039;t say this in your own post&lt;/em&gt;.  It is this conspicuous absence that bothered me.  This absence suggests to those uninitiated in the debate that others are reacting to Gorman in this way only because they don&#039;t like his views.  

They&#039;re reacting to someone who has been publically insulting and berating them for years with writings chock full of dishonesty.

For the record, I don&#039;t think it is unfair, when discussing someone who is notorious for being rude, dishonest, and irrational, to suggest this person might be a lunatic or a jerk.

For the record, I suspect he&#039;s just a jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott.</p>
<p>On the second point, thanks for clarifying.  I&#8217;ve added an edit to the post noting this clarification.</p>
<p>On the first, I maintain that you&#8217;re applying a double standard by your selection of recipients for your critique.  You criticize others for being rude in response to Gorman, leaving out entirely that Gorman himself is exceptionally rude.  You suggest in your comment above that you find Gorman&#8217;s tone offensive and unacceptable but <em>you don&#8217;t say this in your own post</em>.  It is this conspicuous absence that bothered me.  This absence suggests to those uninitiated in the debate that others are reacting to Gorman in this way only because they don&#8217;t like his views.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re reacting to someone who has been publically insulting and berating them for years with writings chock full of dishonesty.</p>
<p>For the record, I don&#8217;t think it is unfair, when discussing someone who is notorious for being rude, dishonest, and irrational, to suggest this person might be a lunatic or a jerk.</p>
<p>For the record, I suspect he&#8217;s just a jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: T Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 quick things -- I intentionally stayed away from addressing Gorman&#039;s remarks specifically, and I certainly don&#039;t think ad hominem remarks from him are &quot;okay&quot; -- it&#039;s just that his comments weren&#039;t what I was writing about.  Some folks may believe that his offensive tone justifies using an offensive tone in response -- I don&#039;t. If that tone is unacceptable coming from him, then it should be unacceptable coming from anybody else, it seems to me, regardless of the provocation.

Second, I may have stated this badly, but  my statement that &quot;I don&#039;t have any grounds for questioning his sincerity&quot; was meant to apply to the NASIG speaker, not to Gorman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 quick things &#8212; I intentionally stayed away from addressing Gorman&#8217;s remarks specifically, and I certainly don&#8217;t think ad hominem remarks from him are &#8220;okay&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s just that his comments weren&#8217;t what I was writing about.  Some folks may believe that his offensive tone justifies using an offensive tone in response &#8212; I don&#8217;t. If that tone is unacceptable coming from him, then it should be unacceptable coming from anybody else, it seems to me, regardless of the provocation.</p>
<p>Second, I may have stated this badly, but  my statement that &#8220;I don&#8217;t have any grounds for questioning his sincerity&#8221; was meant to apply to the NASIG speaker, not to Gorman.</p>
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