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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-118939</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ema-

Because authority is at least partially determined by subjective judgement.  A secular humanist PhD in Women&#039;s Studies and Public Health will likely evaluate WWB&#039;s authority differently from, for instance, Pat Robertson.

If you were to add a number representing human judgement to the algorithm, you&#039;d need to have a LOT of faith in the person(s) assigning that number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ema-</p>
<p>Because authority is at least partially determined by subjective judgement.  A secular humanist PhD in Women&#8217;s Studies and Public Health will likely evaluate WWB&#8217;s authority differently from, for instance, Pat Robertson.</p>
<p>If you were to add a number representing human judgement to the algorithm, you&#8217;d need to have a LOT of faith in the person(s) assigning that number.</p>
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		<title>By: ema</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-118866</link>
		<dc:creator>ema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 05:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But the key question isn’t how to design an algorithm capable of discerning authority because such a thing isn’t possible.&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm, I must say that&#039;s something I hadn&#039;t considered.

Still, I&#039;m not ready to give up on the idea just yet. Wouldn&#039;t adding a human element make such an algorithm possible? [It took me all of 5 minutes to go to the WWB (my first visit there) and figure out its &quot;authority&quot; level.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But the key question isn’t how to design an algorithm capable of discerning authority because such a thing isn’t possible.</i></p>
<p>Hmm, I must say that&#8217;s something I hadn&#8217;t considered.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m not ready to give up on the idea just yet. Wouldn&#8217;t adding a human element make such an algorithm possible? [It took me all of 5 minutes to go to the WWB (my first visit there) and figure out its "authority" level.]</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-118863</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ema, I agree with you that WWB clearly sucks.

But the key question isn&#039;t how to design an algorithm capable of discerning authority because such a thing isn&#039;t possible.  

The key questions (imho) are (1) whether ANY algorithmic analysis can produce a useful result and (2)if users can commony grasp a nuanced understanding of how such algorithms work and stop confusing terms like &quot;top&quot;, &quot;best&quot;, &quot;most respected&quot;, &quot;most reliable&quot; and &quot;most popular.&quot; 

But as Rachel pointed out (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/#comment-115063&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;her comment from August 13th&lt;/a&gt;), this isn&#039;t a new problem, just a new-media version of an old one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ema, I agree with you that WWB clearly sucks.</p>
<p>But the key question isn&#8217;t how to design an algorithm capable of discerning authority because such a thing isn&#8217;t possible.  </p>
<p>The key questions (imho) are (1) whether ANY algorithmic analysis can produce a useful result and (2)if users can commony grasp a nuanced understanding of how such algorithms work and stop confusing terms like &#8220;top&#8221;, &#8220;best&#8221;, &#8220;most respected&#8221;, &#8220;most reliable&#8221; and &#8220;most popular.&#8221; </p>
<p>But as Rachel pointed out (see <a href="http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/#comment-115063" rel="nofollow">her comment from August 13th</a>), this isn&#8217;t a new problem, just a new-media version of an old one.</p>
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		<title>By: ema</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-118862</link>
		<dc:creator>ema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know exactly what you mean when you say that the ranking doesn&#039;t reflect &quot;Authority/Accuracy&quot;.

A quick example from the 
MedGadget.nl list:

Well Woman Blog is ranked #62 while The Blog That Ate Manhattan is #77. The problem? Here&#039;s an actual line from a WWB post: &quot;A variety of [birth control] pills are available as well as injections and patches. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wellwomanblog.com/50226711/birth_control_using_implanon.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;None have proven safe for a woman to use.&lt;/a&gt;&quot; 

That last statement alone should disqualify WWB from inclusion in any medblogger ranking. Of course, the key question is how do you design an algorithm capable of distinguishing authoritative content from nonsense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know exactly what you mean when you say that the ranking doesn&#8217;t reflect &#8220;Authority/Accuracy&#8221;.</p>
<p>A quick example from the<br />
MedGadget.nl list:</p>
<p>Well Woman Blog is ranked #62 while The Blog That Ate Manhattan is #77. The problem? Here&#8217;s an actual line from a WWB post: &#8220;A variety of [birth control] pills are available as well as injections and patches. <a href="http://www.wellwomanblog.com/50226711/birth_control_using_implanon.php" rel="nofollow">None have proven safe for a woman to use.</a>&#8221; </p>
<p>That last statement alone should disqualify WWB from inclusion in any medblogger ranking. Of course, the key question is how do you design an algorithm capable of distinguishing authoritative content from nonsense?</p>
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		<title>By: Sneak preview ranking english written medblogs » Medgadget.nl</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-116195</link>
		<dc:creator>Sneak preview ranking english written medblogs » Medgadget.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sneak preview ranking english written medblogs Geplaatst door: Jan in Zonder rubriek   (Nog geen beoordeling) &#160;Loading ...  Artikel getagd met: My algorithm for ranking english written medblogs did get some attention. Some comments were postive, others more neutral. Other medbloggers were more critical of the used algorithm. As I pointed out it was not my intention to publish this ranking every month, but since it seems to fulfill a need I decided to publish this list every month. For now I publish the preliminary result for August. This list contains 356 medblogs. I did not change the original algorithm, but David Rothman&#8217;s comments make sense. So I am looking into changing the algorithm. The preliminary list is published below. The official list will be published on the MedblogEN-page. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sneak preview ranking english written medblogs Geplaatst door: Jan in Zonder rubriek   (Nog geen beoordeling) &nbsp;Loading &#8230;  Artikel getagd met: My algorithm for ranking english written medblogs did get some attention. Some comments were postive, others more neutral. Other medbloggers were more critical of the used algorithm. As I pointed out it was not my intention to publish this ranking every month, but since it seems to fulfill a need I decided to publish this list every month. For now I publish the preliminary result for August. This list contains 356 medblogs. I did not change the original algorithm, but David Rothman&#8217;s comments make sense. So I am looking into changing the algorithm. The preliminary list is published below. The official list will be published on the MedblogEN-page. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aanpassingen aan MedblogNL top 25 » Medgadget.nl</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-115453</link>
		<dc:creator>Aanpassingen aan MedblogNL top 25 » Medgadget.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Het algoritme om de waarde van een site te berekenen heb ik nog niet veranderd, alhoewel er redelijk wat kritiek op is gekomen. Maar ik ben druk bezig met het nadenken over eventuele aanpassingen. Zo wil ik websites die duidelijk aangeven wie erachter zit extra belonen. Een aantal medblogs zijn anoniem geschreven. Dat draagt niet bij aan het vertrouwen van het publiek in zo&#8217;n site. Vandaar deze gedachte. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Het algoritme om de waarde van een site te berekenen heb ik nog niet veranderd, alhoewel er redelijk wat kritiek op is gekomen. Maar ik ben druk bezig met het nadenken over eventuele aanpassingen. Zo wil ik websites die duidelijk aangeven wie erachter zit extra belonen. Een aantal medblogs zijn anoniem geschreven. Dat draagt niet bij aan het vertrouwen van het publiek in zo&#8217;n site. Vandaar deze gedachte. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-115072</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re 100% right, Rachel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re 100% right, Rachel.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-115063</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, David, New Kids on the Block weren&#039;t quality? Mwahahaha. Aside from which, good post. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a great solution - as a parallel, local news stations have measures of viewership, and newspapers of subscribers, but that doesn&#039;t mean that &quot;if it bleeds it leads&quot; is quality reporting, or what viewers/readers would prefer if given an option. It&#039;s an old problem, in a new medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, David, New Kids on the Block weren&#8217;t quality? Mwahahaha. Aside from which, good post. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a great solution &#8211; as a parallel, local news stations have measures of viewership, and newspapers of subscribers, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that &#8220;if it bleeds it leads&#8221; is quality reporting, or what viewers/readers would prefer if given an option. It&#8217;s an old problem, in a new medium.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-112161</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Iskandar-

1. Polls and surveys are problematic because participants are self-selecting.  Besides, I think we can estimate popularity without them.

2. Rather than endorsing external medical blogs, I think professional institutions like the AMA or BMA will probably create their own blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Iskandar-</p>
<p>1. Polls and surveys are problematic because participants are self-selecting.  Besides, I think we can estimate popularity without them.</p>
<p>2. Rather than endorsing external medical blogs, I think professional institutions like the AMA or BMA will probably create their own blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: iskandar m i basal</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2007/08/07/rating-medical-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-112145</link>
		<dc:creator>iskandar m i basal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not read all the comments already but I have  a suggestion or two:1. technorati or others may use polls or surveys to check about the popularity.
2. a committee formulated from the different interested medical associations as the AMA and BMA or others can check for the authority and real rank and for the quality of the medical contents of blogs. As medical blogging is becoming more and more important for many reasons I&#039;m not able to list here, I think the medical associations might be interested in this item.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not read all the comments already but I have  a suggestion or two:1. technorati or others may use polls or surveys to check about the popularity.<br />
2. a committee formulated from the different interested medical associations as the AMA and BMA or others can check for the authority and real rank and for the quality of the medical contents of blogs. As medical blogging is becoming more and more important for many reasons I&#8217;m not able to list here, I think the medical associations might be interested in this item.</p>
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