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	<title>Comments on: BiomedExperts.com, ListServs and The Wrong Orifice</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas Krichel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Krichel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that I was aiming at the NLM has some background, that I did not point out.

I have obtained a license to use the PubMed data to build an author registration system similar to the one in the RePEc author service http://authors.repec.org, which has been a tremendous boost to the RePEc digital library http://repec.org, both of which are my creations. Similarly, an author registration service for PubMed would be tremendous boot for PubMed, and I am willing to run it for them at no cost. 

The NLM not only said that they would not use records from such a service. The made it an explicit condition that I would not even offer these records to them, so they would not come close to the temptation of saying, yes, we could use them to enhance service.

I am still pursuing work on the creation of such a service. Get back to me privately (krichel@openlib.org) if you want to know more. Use &quot;author service&quot; as a subject line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that I was aiming at the NLM has some background, that I did not point out.</p>
<p>I have obtained a license to use the PubMed data to build an author registration system similar to the one in the RePEc author service <a href="http://authors.repec.org" rel="nofollow">http://authors.repec.org</a>, which has been a tremendous boost to the RePEc digital library <a href="http://repec.org" rel="nofollow">http://repec.org</a>, both of which are my creations. Similarly, an author registration service for PubMed would be tremendous boot for PubMed, and I am willing to run it for them at no cost. </p>
<p>The NLM not only said that they would not use records from such a service. The made it an explicit condition that I would not even offer these records to them, so they would not come close to the temptation of saying, yes, we could use them to enhance service.</p>
<p>I am still pursuing work on the creation of such a service. Get back to me privately (krichel@openlib.org) if you want to know more. Use &#8220;author service&#8221; as a subject line.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these notes, Scott.  I found odd holes in profiles as well.

For those interested in the NLM&#039;s long-range plan:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/plan/lrpdocs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/plan/lrpdocs.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these notes, Scott.  I found odd holes in profiles as well.</p>
<p>For those interested in the NLM&#8217;s long-range plan:<br />
<a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/plan/lrpdocs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/plan/lrpdocs.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: t scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>t scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post prompted me to go in and take a look at my profile.  Couple of things --

Regarding your footnote -- I think there&#039;s some truth to it being an advertisement for the products that Collexis sells -- but I think the products that they sell are really pretty cool.  They are expensive, and so far, their customers seem to be fairly well-heeled research universities.  We&#039;ve looked into what they offer here, and while it would help us address a number of issues that we&#039;re looking at in getting our arms around the totality of our research production, it&#039;s not something we&#039;re going to invest in at this point.  But they are definitely worth keeping an eye on.

As to BiomedExperts.com itself, although the terms of use say that you can be a Visitor or a Member, I couldn&#039;t figure out how to browse the database without registering.  Did you find a way to do that?

Once I registered, the first thing I noticed was that they hadn&#039;t pulled everything out of PubMed that I&#039;ve published in the last ten years.  They&#039;re big on their &quot;disambiguation&quot; feature that can sort out the various authors with the same name and decide who is who.  One would think, given my last name, that it&#039;d be pretty simple.  So how come they missed six out of twenty-one citations?

One of my publications is co-authored by Bruce Madge, and they did find that one.  And yet, although they have Bruce in the database, when they constructed my profile, he&#039;s not included as a co-author.  Why?

The privacy policy states that you can opt out of having email announcements sent to you by checking the appropriate box on your personal information page.  Maybe I just haven&#039;t had enough coffee yet, but I couldn&#039;t find anyplace where I was able to opt out.

My bottom line then (allowing for the fact that I&#039;ve only spent a very few minutes with it and am probably just missing the answers to some of my questions) is that I think it&#039;s very intriguing, has great potential, but is still very much a work in progress.  I would like to spend more time with the subject analysis side of it -- I just peeked into that and was quite fascinated by some of the topic headings they claim I&#039;ve written about.

And, by the way, I think you&#039;re absolutely right about Krichel&#039;s comment about a &quot;nail in the coffin&quot;.  And as far as NLM goes, he might want to peruse their recently published long-range plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post prompted me to go in and take a look at my profile.  Couple of things &#8211;</p>
<p>Regarding your footnote &#8212; I think there&#8217;s some truth to it being an advertisement for the products that Collexis sells &#8212; but I think the products that they sell are really pretty cool.  They are expensive, and so far, their customers seem to be fairly well-heeled research universities.  We&#8217;ve looked into what they offer here, and while it would help us address a number of issues that we&#8217;re looking at in getting our arms around the totality of our research production, it&#8217;s not something we&#8217;re going to invest in at this point.  But they are definitely worth keeping an eye on.</p>
<p>As to BiomedExperts.com itself, although the terms of use say that you can be a Visitor or a Member, I couldn&#8217;t figure out how to browse the database without registering.  Did you find a way to do that?</p>
<p>Once I registered, the first thing I noticed was that they hadn&#8217;t pulled everything out of PubMed that I&#8217;ve published in the last ten years.  They&#8217;re big on their &#8220;disambiguation&#8221; feature that can sort out the various authors with the same name and decide who is who.  One would think, given my last name, that it&#8217;d be pretty simple.  So how come they missed six out of twenty-one citations?</p>
<p>One of my publications is co-authored by Bruce Madge, and they did find that one.  And yet, although they have Bruce in the database, when they constructed my profile, he&#8217;s not included as a co-author.  Why?</p>
<p>The privacy policy states that you can opt out of having email announcements sent to you by checking the appropriate box on your personal information page.  Maybe I just haven&#8217;t had enough coffee yet, but I couldn&#8217;t find anyplace where I was able to opt out.</p>
<p>My bottom line then (allowing for the fact that I&#8217;ve only spent a very few minutes with it and am probably just missing the answers to some of my questions) is that I think it&#8217;s very intriguing, has great potential, but is still very much a work in progress.  I would like to spend more time with the subject analysis side of it &#8212; I just peeked into that and was quite fascinated by some of the topic headings they claim I&#8217;ve written about.</p>
<p>And, by the way, I think you&#8217;re absolutely right about Krichel&#8217;s comment about a &#8220;nail in the coffin&#8221;.  And as far as NLM goes, he might want to peruse their recently published long-range plan.</p>
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