davidrothman.net

davidrothman.net

Health Information | Geekery

 
 
 
 

Why Slate is Wrong About “the myth of Web 2.0 democracy”

Chris Wilson’s article in Slate last Friday argues that social media like Digg and Wikipedia aren’t really “democratic”.

Phil Bradley sums up the article really nicely:

1% of Wikipedia users are responsible for about half of the sites edits.

In 2007 the top 100 diggers submitted 44% of the sites top stories, and in 2006 it was 56%.

The point really is that it’s not the wisdom of the crowds, it’s a gentle dictatorship of the chaperones.

“At both Digg and Wikipedia,” the article says, “small groups of users have outsized authority.”

Well…yeah. Y’know why?

Digg and Wikipedia’s elite users aren’t chosen by a corporate board of directors or by divine right. They’re the people who participate the most.

Right. Those who are most active in the process develop over time a hugely disproportionate influence. How exactly does that differ from democracy in the United States?

But it’s the next bit that really bugs me:

Despite the fairy tales about the participatory culture of Web 2.0, direct democracy isn’t feasible at the scale on which these sites operate. Still, it’s curious to note that these sites seem to have the hierarchical structure of the old-guard institutions they’ve sought to supplant.

First, direct democracy is absolutely feasible at the scale on which these sites operate. In fact, I believe direct democracy that is (more or less) as democratic as the process by which we elect American presidents is happening on these sites. Just as in life and politics, those who posses the necessary desire and resources cultivate a disproportionate influence.

I don’t think it is that these sites have built a hierarchical structure into their source code- it is that human behavior is still human behavior whether it takes places in presidential primaries or on Digg. That behavior forms a hierarchy.

The United States isn’t a populist utopia, and no social site ever will be either. Why? Because they’re run by fallible people operating from positions of widely varying resources who care in greatly varying degrees.

Anyone with the requisite smarts and time to invest has the opportunity to become influential on these sites- and that’s what makes these sites democratic.

Like this post? Subscribe to the RSS feed!

7 Responses to “Why Slate is Wrong About “the myth of Web 2.0 democracy””

  1. 1
    Aren Grimshaw:

    I am pleased to see your response to the Slate story. I wrote my own reply before reading yours and have very similar views.

    I will add a link to your blog and please feel free to comment on my piece should you want to.

    Many thanks

    Aren
    http://uknetweb.wordpress.com

  2. 2
    Stephen Johnson:

    Sorry, but I don’t think you cam close to demonstrating that the Slate article was “wrong.” And who cares anyway how “democratic” Wikipedia is?

  3. 3
    David Rothman:

    Stephen, I suspect we’d agree that trying to judge these sites by how “democratic” they are is silly. Wilson chose to use that word.

    No, I didn’t demonstrate that the Slate article was “wrong” any more than the Slate article demonstrated that Wikipedia isn’t “democratic.” Opinions are like that. Fortunately, we’re each of us entitled to his/her own. Thanks for sharing yours- no need to apologize. :)

  4. 4
    Mortimer:

    Certain Diggers’ opinions are given more weight because of a secret algorithm. That isn’t democracy – it’s aristocracy.

  5. 5
    David Rothman:

    If it is true that there is a secret algorithm that gives some Diggers’ opinions more weight, that would be a fair point, Mortimer.

    On the other hand, perhaps the electoral college and democratic party Superdelegates might be a fair analogy for these individual Diggers with disproportionate influence.

  6. 6
    guido:

    Regarding the numbers on who generates content on wikipedia (the superusers) vs who deletes more content (people with less posts)
    Wilson thinks the typo fixing is done by the many, but I reckon those small numbers are people doing spin/damage control on the small number of entries that interest them. Purely speculation…

    Here’s the section:
    “People who’ve made more than 10,000 edits add nearly twice as many words to Wikipedia as they delete. By contrast, those who’ve made fewer than 100 edits are the only group that deletes more words than it adds. A small number of people are writing the articles, it seems, while less-frequent users are given the tasks of error correction and typo fixing.”
    Thoughts?

  7. 7
    David Rothman:

    My guess would be similar to yours, Guido…but I haven’t seen (or looked for) any data that would support either view.

Pages

Recent Comments

Archives

RSS Incoming Links

  • Materiales multimedia: �EHSL � Knowledge Weavers Project ... February 1, 2012
    The Knowledge Weavers Project es un proyecto liderado por Sharon Dennis con la colaboraci�n de Suzanne Stensaas cuyo objetivo principal es el de producir innovadores recursos multimedia, como tutoriales, casos interactivos, ... […]
  • Bibliotequices: Uma hora de Youtube �... January 28, 2012
    entre outras mais coisas que ficar� a saber entrar no s�tio "One Hour per Second" http://www.onehourpersecond.com. Depois de carregar no play asistir� a uma infografia animada, um trabalho muito bem elaborado e que certamente passar� ... […]
  • Bibliotequices: E-readers ajudam leitores com dislexia? January 25, 2012
    Ainda a carecer de mais dados para se poder afirmar taxativamente a utilidade desses aparelhos ou do grau de melhoria, o certo � que alguns leitores t�m referido esse factor. Leem mais facilmente e sem baralhar letras num e-reader que ... […]
  • �IndagandoTV�, televisi�n online de contenido cient�fico ... January 24, 2012
    Posted on enero 24, 2012 by usalbiomedica | Deja un comentario. Gracias al blog somosmedicina.com conozco IndagandoTV. Se trata de la primera televisi�n online de contenido exclusivamente cient�fico. Transmite las 24 horas del d�a y, ... […]
  • Bibliotequices: E que tal um livro? January 23, 2012
    Saul Bass for the Bell System - Here's the pitch that Saul Bass gave to the Bell System when he was updating their identity. It isn't a must watch but I'm posting it for a couple of reaso... Cadeir�o Voltaire · Correntes d'Escritas 2012 - O programa ... […]
  • Bibliotequices: Pessoas inteligentes usam bibliotecas inteligentes January 23, 2012
    *APRESENTA��O DO SISTEMA INTEGRADO DE INFORMA��O ARQUIV�STICA DO MINIST�RIO DA ECONOMIA - SIIAMEI* Audit�rio da Direc��o-Geral de Arquivos 12 de Dezembro... Letra pequena · Livros ao vivo no Chiado - �Uma ... […]
  • Bibliotequices: McBiblioteca January 23, 2012
    ... para uma biblioteca, comunit�ria ou n�o: os livros servem para serem lidos: se eles n�o est�o em... walking paper · Saul Bass for the Bell System - Here's the pitch that Saul Bass gave to the Bell System when he was updating their identity. […]
  • Usalbiomedica � Tabl�n de anuncios | USALbiom�dica January 22, 2012
    Comienza una nueva etapa para el Tabl�n de anuncios de USALbiom�dica. Se trata de un Bolet�n de Noticias de periodicidad semanal elaborado por la Biblioteca de la Facultad de Medicina y Odontolog�a de la Universidad de Salamanca. […]
  • Bibliotequices: Ahab na neve January 18, 2012
    Ahab na neve. O novo an�ncio do Audi quattro chama-se �Ahab� e glosa o argumento de Moby Dick e a obsess�o do capit�o Ahab pela evasiva baleia branca. Agora o cen�rio s�o as estradas de neve e os carros que fogem ao reboque. […]
  • Bibliotequices: Ler na cama January 17, 2012
    Este ano, com os cortes anunciados, muitas bibliotecas est�o amea�adas de encerra... Da Literatura · O DESASTRE - O BCP, o BPI e o BES fecharam 2011 com *preju�zos de 1098,9 milh�es de euros *. O quadro mostra a quota de cada um. […]

Subscribe

Posts (RSS)
Comments (RSS)

Enter your email address to receive email updates of new posts:



Search

 


Contact



card.ly

Elsewhere Online

Reciprocal Blogroll