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		<title>By: ChemSpiderMan</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2008/02/29/making-pubmed-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-128864</link>
		<dc:creator>ChemSpiderMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOu might be interested in the recent integration made between ChemSpider and the Entrez system to access articles on PubMed. Visit http://www.chemspider.com/blog/chemspider-rolls-out-first-versions-of-chemrefer-and-entrez-integration.html for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOu might be interested in the recent integration made between ChemSpider and the Entrez system to access articles on PubMed. Visit <a href="http://www.chemspider.com/blog/chemspider-rolls-out-first-versions-of-chemrefer-and-entrez-integration.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chemspider.com/blog/chemspider-rolls-out-first-versions-of-chemrefer-and-entrez-integration.html</a> for details.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Eng</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2008/02/29/making-pubmed-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-128757</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback on Healia&#039;s Pubmed/Medline search tool. Our initial focus was to make Pubmed searching easier given that our focus is on the consumer. However, we recognize that it can be improved to meet the needs of higher end users and professionals. We are hoping to release enhancements in the near future. The audience/demographic filters are based on our content assessment algorithms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback on Healia&#8217;s Pubmed/Medline search tool. Our initial focus was to make Pubmed searching easier given that our focus is on the consumer. However, we recognize that it can be improved to meet the needs of higher end users and professionals. We are hoping to release enhancements in the near future. The audience/demographic filters are based on our content assessment algorithms.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon-

Disagreement is *good*!  :)

Could you share more about what your ideal &quot;easy&quot; PubMed search would look like?  Would it be sort of a search wizard that would take the query &quot;statins&quot;, offer synonyms and MeSH mappings, then prompt the user for more specifics? (Like asking if the user wants information about dosage, adverse effects, efficacy, etc.)  Would it ask the user what condition or discipline their query ins in relation to?

How do you make a PubMed/Medline interface &quot;easier&quot; without sacrificing power and specificity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon-</p>
<p>Disagreement is *good*!  <img src='http://davidrothman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Could you share more about what your ideal &#8220;easy&#8221; PubMed search would look like?  Would it be sort of a search wizard that would take the query &#8220;statins&#8221;, offer synonyms and MeSH mappings, then prompt the user for more specifics? (Like asking if the user wants information about dosage, adverse effects, efficacy, etc.)  Would it ask the user what condition or discipline their query ins in relation to?</p>
<p>How do you make a PubMed/Medline interface &#8220;easier&#8221; without sacrificing power and specificity?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Brassey</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2008/02/29/making-pubmed-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-128684</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Brassey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree to a significant extent with the last part of the last paragraph.  However, evidence is pretty scant, so we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree.  I seem to remember some research showing that non-expert searchers located around 30% of relevant/pertient documents in PubMed.  Information experts tended to find nearer 70%.

One of the big ideas in search is intentions.  So when someone searches for something can we know what they&#039;re interested in?  To an extent (and I&#039;m not suggesting we&#039;ve done it too well) we&#039;ve had a go with our specialist search engines.  For instance if you&#039;re an oncologist and search for statins you&#039;re likely to want different information than, say, a cardiologist.  So an oncologist could use this link http://www.tripdatabase.com/cancer/SearchResults.html?categoryid=14&amp;sort=t&amp;criteria=statins and get articles pertient to their profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree to a significant extent with the last part of the last paragraph.  However, evidence is pretty scant, so we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree.  I seem to remember some research showing that non-expert searchers located around 30% of relevant/pertient documents in PubMed.  Information experts tended to find nearer 70%.</p>
<p>One of the big ideas in search is intentions.  So when someone searches for something can we know what they&#8217;re interested in?  To an extent (and I&#8217;m not suggesting we&#8217;ve done it too well) we&#8217;ve had a go with our specialist search engines.  For instance if you&#8217;re an oncologist and search for statins you&#8217;re likely to want different information than, say, a cardiologist.  So an oncologist could use this link <a href="http://www.tripdatabase.com/cancer/SearchResults.html?categoryid=14&amp;sort=t&amp;criteria=statins" rel="nofollow">http://www.tripdatabase.com/cancer/SearchResults.html?categoryid=14&amp;sort=t&amp;criteria=statins</a> and get articles pertient to their profession.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2008/02/29/making-pubmed-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-128683</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, I think you&#039;ve pretty much made my point for me.  It is impossible to produce specific, relevant results without formulating a query full of specifics.  Medical librarians and other expert searchers aren&#039;t going to use Healia&#039;s PubMed/Medline search because it is inferior for their purposes.

I believe that with software, power and ease-of-use frequently have an inverse relationship.  PubMed is powerful, but has a learning curve.  Healia PubMed/Medline is much easier to use, but nowhere near as powerful.

&lt;em&gt;1) Healia is a pretty good interface but aren’t you concerned that it misses out over half the potential results as it doesn’t auto-map to MeSH?&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, that&#039;s why I specifically mentioned it.  See the footnote.

&lt;em&gt;While searching for ‘statins’ is inadequate, it’s also realistic. In the analysis of TRIP the majority (by a long way) were single search terms. I wouldn’t have thought the users of Medline are likely to be significantly more ‘savvy’ than TRIP users.&lt;/em&gt;

Lastly, I think it is a mistake to attempt to estimate how people use PubMed based on how they use TRIP.  They have different (although overlapping) user bases, they contain different sorts of information, and TRIP doesn&#039;t use a controlled vocabulary.  But even if it is, as you write, &quot;realistic&quot;, a search for &quot;statins&quot; in PubMed is mapped to MeSH terms and the user will review the first couple of results pages to see all the most recent articles that match the mapped query.  If a user is so unsophisticated as to search just for &lt;em&gt;statins&lt;/em&gt;, that search is likely to suffice.  Someone who knows that they need more specific information will likely &lt;em&gt;ask&lt;/em&gt; for it by querying for something like &lt;em&gt;statins adverse effects&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I think you&#8217;ve pretty much made my point for me.  It is impossible to produce specific, relevant results without formulating a query full of specifics.  Medical librarians and other expert searchers aren&#8217;t going to use Healia&#8217;s PubMed/Medline search because it is inferior for their purposes.</p>
<p>I believe that with software, power and ease-of-use frequently have an inverse relationship.  PubMed is powerful, but has a learning curve.  Healia PubMed/Medline is much easier to use, but nowhere near as powerful.</p>
<p><em>1) Healia is a pretty good interface but aren’t you concerned that it misses out over half the potential results as it doesn’t auto-map to MeSH?</em></p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s why I specifically mentioned it.  See the footnote.</p>
<p><em>While searching for ‘statins’ is inadequate, it’s also realistic. In the analysis of TRIP the majority (by a long way) were single search terms. I wouldn’t have thought the users of Medline are likely to be significantly more ‘savvy’ than TRIP users.</em></p>
<p>Lastly, I think it is a mistake to attempt to estimate how people use PubMed based on how they use TRIP.  They have different (although overlapping) user bases, they contain different sorts of information, and TRIP doesn&#8217;t use a controlled vocabulary.  But even if it is, as you write, &#8220;realistic&#8221;, a search for &#8220;statins&#8221; in PubMed is mapped to MeSH terms and the user will review the first couple of results pages to see all the most recent articles that match the mapped query.  If a user is so unsophisticated as to search just for <em>statins</em>, that search is likely to suffice.  Someone who knows that they need more specific information will likely <em>ask</em> for it by querying for something like <em>statins adverse effects</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2008/02/29/making-pubmed-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-128680</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon: your AE search is not generic (term #2)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon: your AE search is not generic (term #2)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does Healia work? Does it use the ever-existng PubMed filters? I guess so in the case of publication type and population.
How does it do the dosage/adverse effects search? Using MeSH-subheadings &quot;/adverse effects...&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does Healia work? Does it use the ever-existng PubMed filters? I guess so in the case of publication type and population.<br />
How does it do the dosage/adverse effects search? Using MeSH-subheadings &#8220;/adverse effects&#8230;&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Brassey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Brassey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting on my post, a few points:

1) Healia is a pretty good interface but aren’t you concerned that it misses out over half the potential results as it doesn’t auto-map to MeSH?  

2) I find the MeSH terms for demographics, especially age, are pretty poor.

3) Take your example of using the tabs, try using side-effects .  In Helia you get 31 reviews, in English, from the last 5 years

I’ve repeated your search for side effects of statins.  Instead of using Helia’s method, I’ll use my own.

#1 = statins
#2 = myalgia OR myositis OR myopathy OR rhabdomyolysis
#3 = #1 AND #2
Note: #2 is made up of the major side-effects, I used those for demonstration purposes.  It didn’t include things such as altered LFTs etc.  

If you limit that to the last 5 years and English you get 112 reviews.  Are those ‘missing’ 81 reviews important?

In a way I should be pleased; less results is what I requested!

While searching for ‘statins’ is inadequate, it’s also realistic.   In the analysis of TRIP the majority (by a long way) were single search terms.  I wouldn’t have thought the users of Medline are likely to be significantly more ‘savvy’ than TRIP users.

Don’t get me wrong I think that PubMed is wonderful, I use it every day.  But the complexity you praise is also its downfall.

I agree that, in time, new interfaces will come out to enhance and improve access to the literature contained in PubMed.  An ‘easy’ way (other than asking a librarian/info specialist) may never come to fruition, but it’d be a shame not to aspire to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting on my post, a few points:</p>
<p>1) Healia is a pretty good interface but aren’t you concerned that it misses out over half the potential results as it doesn’t auto-map to MeSH?  </p>
<p>2) I find the MeSH terms for demographics, especially age, are pretty poor.</p>
<p>3) Take your example of using the tabs, try using side-effects .  In Helia you get 31 reviews, in English, from the last 5 years</p>
<p>I’ve repeated your search for side effects of statins.  Instead of using Helia’s method, I’ll use my own.</p>
<p>#1 = statins<br />
#2 = myalgia OR myositis OR myopathy OR rhabdomyolysis<br />
#3 = #1 AND #2<br />
Note: #2 is made up of the major side-effects, I used those for demonstration purposes.  It didn’t include things such as altered LFTs etc.  </p>
<p>If you limit that to the last 5 years and English you get 112 reviews.  Are those ‘missing’ 81 reviews important?</p>
<p>In a way I should be pleased; less results is what I requested!</p>
<p>While searching for ‘statins’ is inadequate, it’s also realistic.   In the analysis of TRIP the majority (by a long way) were single search terms.  I wouldn’t have thought the users of Medline are likely to be significantly more ‘savvy’ than TRIP users.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong I think that PubMed is wonderful, I use it every day.  But the complexity you praise is also its downfall.</p>
<p>I agree that, in time, new interfaces will come out to enhance and improve access to the literature contained in PubMed.  An ‘easy’ way (other than asking a librarian/info specialist) may never come to fruition, but it’d be a shame not to aspire to that.</p>
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