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		<title>By: Headlines for Jan 19-25 &#124; Health Content Advisors</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/comment-page-1/#comment-197601</link>
		<dc:creator>Headlines for Jan 19-25 &#124; Health Content Advisors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/comment-page-1/#comment-195371</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe-

If I understand your point correctly, I think we agree. I thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/dmal.9780262562324.123&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eysenbach&#039;s article&lt;/a&gt; rightly asserted that there is value in both.  My greatest complaint about Deshpande and Jadad is that they imply apomediation can (and should) &lt;i&gt;replace&lt;/i&gt; expertise.  

They&#039;re saying some hugely stupid things.  If they&#039;re motivated by what you call an undisclosed conflict of interest, they&#039;re schmucks as well.

All that said, I&#039;m not sure I agree a blog post with comments demonstrates or tests apomediation.  However, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rachel submitting it to StumbleUpon&lt;/a&gt; might. :)

Hi Michele!

I think our traditional evaluation methods could probably stand a lot of improvement- but I don&#039;t think that the wisdom of the crowd comes close to approaching the value of peer review when it comes to evaluating the quality of health information.

Thanks for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe-</p>
<p>If I understand your point correctly, I think we agree. I thought <a href="http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/dmal.9780262562324.123" rel="nofollow">Eysenbach&#8217;s article</a> rightly asserted that there is value in both.  My greatest complaint about Deshpande and Jadad is that they imply apomediation can (and should) <i>replace</i> expertise.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re saying some hugely stupid things.  If they&#8217;re motivated by what you call an undisclosed conflict of interest, they&#8217;re schmucks as well.</p>
<p>All that said, I&#8217;m not sure I agree a blog post with comments demonstrates or tests apomediation.  However, <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/" rel="nofollow">Rachel submitting it to StumbleUpon</a> might. <img src='http://davidrothman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hi Michele!</p>
<p>I think our traditional evaluation methods could probably stand a lot of improvement- but I don&#8217;t think that the wisdom of the crowd comes close to approaching the value of peer review when it comes to evaluating the quality of health information.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Michele in Oshkosh, WI</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/comment-page-1/#comment-195361</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele in Oshkosh, WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, David.  I&#039;m giving a health literacy presentation for Seniors in a few weeks, and I&#039;ve been wondering what to say when someone asks about &quot;the wisdom of crowds&quot; and whether or not our traditional evaluation methods needs to be re-vamped.   I&#039;ll stay the course ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, David.  I&#8217;m giving a health literacy presentation for Seniors in a few weeks, and I&#8217;ve been wondering what to say when someone asks about &#8220;the wisdom of crowds&#8221; and whether or not our traditional evaluation methods needs to be re-vamped.   I&#8217;ll stay the course &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wonder:
&lt;blockquote&gt;If Drs. Deshpande and Jadad have family members with worrying illnesses, do they consult the best available clinical expert, or go to the wisdom of the crowd?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The irony here is: If you want to learn about ehealth or the role of social networking in health, are you asking an ehealth expert (e.g. Mr Chief Innovator and Founder, Centre for Global eHealth Innovation, Canada Research Chair in eHealth Innovation, Dr Jadad), or are you consulting the wisdom of the crowd? Surely - by publishing this blog post - you decided to put the apomediation model to a test. And apomediation works - by people posting comments on your blog you may learn from a comment at http://healthinformaticist.wordpress.com/2009/01/20/why-bother-apprasing-medical-info-on-the-web/ that these authors Deshpande and Jadad have in fact a huge undisclosed conflict of interest - they omit to mention the minor fact that they own or are involved in a commercial medical social networking site. They cite their fancy academic titles in the paper but forget a simple conflict of interest statement - at many universities such behavior would be grounds for dismissal or an academic misconduct investigation.

So experts have their pitfalls, conflicts of interests, etc as well. So what is better, apomediation or intermediation? As Eysenbach stated in his original apomediation theory, there is a place for both, and people switch back and forth, depending on their situation, prior knowledge etc. It is never EITHER experts OR peers/wisdom of crowds etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wonder:</p>
<blockquote><p>If Drs. Deshpande and Jadad have family members with worrying illnesses, do they consult the best available clinical expert, or go to the wisdom of the crowd?</p></blockquote>
<p>The irony here is: If you want to learn about ehealth or the role of social networking in health, are you asking an ehealth expert (e.g. Mr Chief Innovator and Founder, Centre for Global eHealth Innovation, Canada Research Chair in eHealth Innovation, Dr Jadad), or are you consulting the wisdom of the crowd? Surely &#8211; by publishing this blog post &#8211; you decided to put the apomediation model to a test. And apomediation works &#8211; by people posting comments on your blog you may learn from a comment at <a href="http://healthinformaticist.wordpress.com/2009/01/20/why-bother-apprasing-medical-info-on-the-web/" rel="nofollow">http://healthinformaticist.wordpress.com/2009/01/20/why-bother-apprasing-medical-info-on-the-web/</a> that these authors Deshpande and Jadad have in fact a huge undisclosed conflict of interest &#8211; they omit to mention the minor fact that they own or are involved in a commercial medical social networking site. They cite their fancy academic titles in the paper but forget a simple conflict of interest statement &#8211; at many universities such behavior would be grounds for dismissal or an academic misconduct investigation.</p>
<p>So experts have their pitfalls, conflicts of interests, etc as well. So what is better, apomediation or intermediation? As Eysenbach stated in his original apomediation theory, there is a place for both, and people switch back and forth, depending on their situation, prior knowledge etc. It is never EITHER experts OR peers/wisdom of crowds etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Why bother apprasing medical info on the web? &#171; (the) health informaticist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why bother apprasing medical info on the web? &#171; (the) health informaticist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rothman, digg, health 2.0, health information on the internet, Journal of Rheumatology, Wikipedia   David Rothman is amusingly upset by the stupidity of an article in the Journal of Rheumatology by a couple of Canadian academics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rothman, digg, health 2.0, health information on the internet, Journal of Rheumatology, Wikipedia   David Rothman is amusingly upset by the stupidity of an article in the Journal of Rheumatology by a couple of Canadian academics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pudliszek (Ewa Dobrogowska)</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/comment-page-1/#comment-200899</link>
		<dc:creator>Pudliszek (Ewa Dobrogowska)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/berci&quot;&gt;@berci&lt;/a&gt; you have probably no time to read this post by D.Rothman: http://tinyurl.com/9z53sp but , when you talk about the wisdom of the crowd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/berci">@berci</a> you have probably no time to read this post by D.Rothman: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/9z53sp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/9z53sp</a> but , when you talk about the wisdom of the crowd</p>
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		<title>By: ericaholt (ericaholt)</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/comment-page-1/#comment-200900</link>
		<dc:creator>ericaholt (ericaholt)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Rothman on crowd sourcing quality of health information online. Good read! http://tinyurl.com/9z53sp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Rothman on crowd sourcing quality of health information online. Good read! <a href="http://tinyurl.com/9z53sp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/9z53sp</a></p>
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		<title>By: laikas (Laika (Jacqueline))</title>
		<link>http://davidrothman.net/2009/01/20/apomediation-online-health-info-and-baloney/comment-page-1/#comment-200901</link>
		<dc:creator>laikas (Laika (Jacqueline))</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/Pudliszek&quot;&gt;@Pudliszek&lt;/a&gt;: very long post by D.Rothman about the quality of medical information on Internet http://bit.ly/36vUZL Thnx will read it later ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/Pudliszek">@Pudliszek</a>: very long post by D.Rothman about the quality of medical information on Internet <a href="http://bit.ly/36vUZL" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/36vUZL</a> Thnx will read it later <img src='http://davidrothman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pudliszek (Ewa Dobrogowska)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pudliszek (Ewa Dobrogowska)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very long post by D.Rothman about the quality of the medical information on Internet  http://bit.ly/36vUZL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very long post by D.Rothman about the quality of the medical information on Internet  <a href="http://bit.ly/36vUZL" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/36vUZL</a></p>
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